Re: West Coast Skin Boat Gathering (fwd)

H. Paul Jacobson (u.washington.edu!hpj3@imagelan.com)
Tue, 14 Nov 1995 23:57:09 -0800 (PST)

Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 23:57:09 -0800 (PST)
From: "H. Paul Jacobson" <u.washington.edu!hpj3@imagelan.com>
To: baidarka@imagelan.com
Subject: Re: West Coast Skin Boat Gathering (fwd)
In-Reply-To: <9511142255.AA01660@hpbs1686.boi.hp.com>
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On Tue, 14 Nov 1995, Bill Blohm wrote:

> > On a differnt topic, if you need to tie a bowline type loop (i.e. loose,
> > open loop) in slippery synthetic stuff (like braided dacron) try an
> > Angler's Loop. Brion Toss ('The Rigger's Locker') recommends this for
> > bungy. "Begin by making a counterclockwise loop witht he end behind the
> > starting part. Make two complete turns with the end around the loop, the
> > second turn to the right of the first. Pass the first turn over the
> > second and through the loop to finish."(p25, McGraw Hill) It does not work
> > loose like a bowline in slippery line, though it is hard to tie around
> > any thing large.
>
> I must be having trouble somewhere trying to tie this knot. The way I read
> it, it's a lot as if you tie a clove hitch around the standing part. Is
> that indeed what it is?

Partly
Make that clove hitch around the standing part (with the second turn
toward the loop). Now make two changes -
- pull the first turn (of the clove hitch) through the loop
this makes a knot that is similar to then angler's loop, though I don't
know if it holds better or worse.
- now back to the clove hitch around the standing part:
untuck the end, and just hold it around the standing part. Again take
the first turn through the loop, pinching the end in between.
- you might also try taking the first turn in the opposite direction
around the standing part. You want it standing up in the air pointed
towards you. Now reach through the loop, grab this turn & pull it
through the loop. Snug the knot by pulling on the standing part.

Toss describes another method of tying it in his "The Rigger's Apprentice",
under the heading of "Tugboat (or Flying) Bowline". In "The Ashely Book
of Knots", its #1017. Here Toss describes it as a 'strong knot with
excellent lead but also with a tendency to jam." Probably better not try
to describe this method without the diagrams. Few of us are going to
need to tie a loop while running down the deck of a tugboat..

Paul