Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 15:22:22 -0800 (PST)
From: Joseph Lubischer <jlubisch@linknet.kitsap.lib.wa.us>
To: baidarka@lists.intelenet.net
Subject: Re: Hard chine baidarka
In-Reply-To: <199611262307.RAA01081@abby.skypoint.net>
Regarding hard chine baidarkas: Aside from assumptions about what hull
shape Sauer saw, there is one drawing of a hard chine Aleut hull (TsVMM
12212) at the Central Naval Museum in St. Petersburg. The naval archives
(RGAVMF) staff indicated that there are also drawings of a two- and a
three-seat kayak. They believe these drawings were done by the Russian
American Company in response to an order of Alexander I in 1819; no
provenience, drafter, or physical artifact were suggested.
Lines of the single were published by the late Roza G. Liapunova in
"Aleutskie baidarki", Sbornik muzeya antropologii i etnografii 22
(223-242), 1964. I can provide a copy of the drawing if you send a mailing
address to me.
Joe Lubischer
jlubisch@linknet.kitsap.lib.wa.us
On Tue, 26 Nov 1996, wayne steffens wrote:
> At 10:49 AM 11/26/96 -0800, Joseph Lubischer wrote:
> >There is lot's of opportunity for testing kostochki theories. The only
> >contemporary use of which I know is a Shield's frame I built in 1991. The
> >longitudinal flexibility seemed typical of an eastern Aleut design (with
> >the light Aleut structure), but there was an increase in torsional
> >flexibility. Speed tests by Greg Barton showed no significant difference
> >over Dyson's rigid Shield's frame. Further work on my craft was abandoned
> >due to a loss of flexibility as the nylon skin shrank, coupled with the
> >fact that the body was too full. (Builders beware, Shield's drawings are
> >not proportionately correct.) I understand that Mark Daniels wishes to
> >build a kayak with kostochki as part of his program in the Pribilofs. And
> >more interesting, he may be able to do so with seal or sea lion skin,
> >which may, after all, be a critical part of the performance equation.
>
>
>
> Hopefully someone will let us know how Mark's project comes out.
>
> I was going to ask you if anyone had tried the kostochki in an attempted
> reconstruction of the hard chined Aleut kayak Sauer described (see Joe's
> article in Contributions) but I believe you've already answered that
> question. I dont know if Sauer's description is detailed enough for a
> realistic reconstruction.
>
> Wayne
>
>