Date: Mon, 07 Jul 1997 22:40:16 -0600
From: Philip Wylie <pjwylie@superiway.net>
To: baidarka@lists.intelenet.net
Subject: Re: new baidarka, numb legs and toes and more about rolling
So Gary, when can I come over and see this body bracing system you have
created?? Moreover, the Kayak rolling video?
Cheers,
Philip
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grose@ibm.net wrote:
> Addressed to: dhenson@skybus.com
> Kirk Olsen <baidarka@lists.intelenet.net>
> Kirk Olsen <kolsen@imagelan.com>
>
> ** Reply to note from "Derek Henson" <dhenson@skybus.com> Thu, 3 Jul
> 1997 17:30:11 +0000
> I appreciate the support regarding the strap response to a knee
> rolling
> addition. I have spent many nights mentally designing the system and
> then
> a couple of backtracking to reach the conclusion. HERE IS A MORE
> DETAILED SYNOPSIS OF CONSTRUCTION
>
> The system is made up of
> about 8 to 10 feet of 1 inch wide strap (ie used
> on back backs)
> - plus one snap latch - 1 inch size
> plus 14 "things" to "sew" a loop(these are those
> things you run
> the strap through then run th strap around a rib for example and then
>
> back and through the thing again to get a firm grip) the ones I use
> are
> plastic and work great and are easily adjustable - 1" size
> plus four rings - one to run the strap through and one
> to
> attach the strap to. I used metal for running the strap through and
> plastic to attach to.
> total cost as I said is about $5.00.
>
> Cut the straps into the following aproximate lengths:
>
> 2 @ 1 foot - nearest the foot and wraps around the rib (I FORGOT - I
> HAVE
> A 5.6 DYSON SINGLE BAIDARKA) by the ankle and have two rings at the
> other
> end - one on each side of the kayak.
>
> 2 @ 2.25 feet (all these feet measurements are very rough but
> approximate
> representations) - attach to one ring on the one side, pass through a
> ring on the other side and come forward to attach to the third pair of
>
> staps. The other of this pair does the same thing but uses the rings
> remaining. The rings allow the strapping to relax and fall away from
> the
> body.
>
> 2 @ 1.25 feet - attach to the rib at the front of the hatch, at the
> top
> of the thigh, then has a "thing", the foot/thigh strap goes
> around this third stap here then there is another "thing" then the
> strapping attaches to the latch. The strapping then returns through
> the
> first and second thing to total hold the foot/thigh strap. It does the
>
> same thing on the other side. The two "things" for holding the
> foot/thigh strap can now be adjusted up and down the third strap to
> get
> the foot/thigh strap in the most comfortable position for the knee.
>
> This set up allows the foot/thigh strap to be adjusted at the
> thigh end for the knee. The ring end centers when the foot/thigh
> strap
> is pulled tight. When the snap is closed it causes two things to
> happen.
> One is that the foot/thigh strap is tightened and second the strap
> across
> the thighs tightens down across the thighs. Yes this is very
> restrictive
> but it ends up being comfortable in a very short time. (I am land
> locked
> and impress the family by spending an hour or more out in my back yard
>
> sitting in my kayak stapped in and rolling back and forth and just
> sitting there to see if my legs will fall asleep like before - no more
>
> problem - with my thigh support underneath at least. I did move the
> location of the thigh underside support back or forward {I forget} for
>
> more comfort.)
>
> To get out as soon as the snap is released the foot/thigh strap
> de-tensions and pulls the thigh straps down to the side of the legs
> and
> the section at the foot becomes wider because the rings allow it to
> move.
> the natural motion when getting out is to point the toes to the front
> of
> the kayak which further discounts any snagging of feet. As the straps
> from the ribs to the center are only 1 foot and most of that is taken
> up
> by "things", there is nothing really to get hooked in and anyway by
> the
> time the foot got to the thigh strap you are out of the kayak anyway.
>
> What I like is :
>
> 1) when getting in our out there are no restrictions except
> the
> kayak itself as the straps take up no space and are out of the way for
>
> getting in - a little catching may take place getting in but who
> really
> cares when getting in and I am finding with practice this does not
> happen
> either.
>
> 2) The knee brace is always there - nothing to fall out or get
>
> misplace
>
> 3) the system is adjustable to others - though this does take
> some time to get the fit. All the same with my three kayaks I could
> make
> three identical sets and did not have to fiddle with fitting during
> construction. You can also fine adjust it to yourself for personal
> fit.
> I like this capability.
>
> LASTLY - the system is adjusted so that the knee caps catches the
> foot/thigh strap on each side. The leg does not have to be contorted
> like it is in a whitewater kayak. The knee is spread just enough to
> provide resistance. For the detractors there is no force on the knee
> cap
> by this motion and I have not found the need for any padding in fact
> the
> strapping assists in getting a firmer grip.
>
> I am going out to water the end of the month for two weeks. Will
> confirm
> success on returning.
>
> info