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Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 14:04:55 -0400
From: carl_vonkleistiii <carl_vonkleistiii@prusec.com>
To: baidarka@lists.intelenet.net
Subject: [Fwd: Re: Skin]
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Meant to send this when I responded to Arlene.
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Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 09:35:55 -0700
From: carl_vonkleistiii <carl_vonkleistiii@prusec.com>
Organization: Prudential Securities -- Hilton Head Island
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To: bvq213@freenet.mb.ca
Subject: Re: Skin
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AGM96 wrote:
>
> I have "shoelaced" up the canvas (as per the Aluetian Kayak) and now
> wondering how to keep the upper canvas/skin tight while sewing up along the
> top seam?
>
> Also wondering, I was only able to stretch the canvas about 4" lenghtwise.
> If it is suppose to be 8", will this make for a slow, loose skinned boat?
> I am using a #10, 15 oz coton duck.
>
> Thanks for your help,
> Arlene.
>
> A. G. Martin
> bvq213@freenet.mb.ca
> Canada
Arlene, here is a piece from the baidarka archives about lacing and
stiching the canvas. I hope it is of use to you. I can't wait to hear
how your baidarka turns out! :)
I hope the file comes across legibly. It is a DOS text file. I figured
that that should work on just about any text editor.
--
Eric von Kleist We pray for one last landing
Hilton Head Island, SC On the globe that gave us birth,
USA To rest our eyes on the fleecy skies
And the cool green hills of Earth.
Carlyle said, "A lie cannot live"; it shows he did not now how to
tell them. Mark Twain
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From: Andrew_McHaffie@nynet.nybe.north-york.on.ca (Andrew McHaffie)
Subject: Skins and Brink
Date: 27 Feb 1996 12:15:34 GMT
Some humble observations about sewing skins and the Wolfgang Brink
Book (which
I do like on the whole).
I have just skinned my kayak in #10 duck canvas. Brink suggests
tightening
the skin with a 1/8inch roperigged in shoelace type pattern.
IMHO this
puts too much stress on the skin at the lace holes unless you
distribtue the
stress by leaving the bits of dowel used to space the laceholes on
the inside
of the boat. Even with the dowel, it isnt hard to get tears
forming in the
deck. Instead I tightened my skin above the Deckbeam through
brute force
with the help of a pair of vice grips and then held the canvas in
place
(while I sewed) with a set of strong spring clamps. This method
has worked
well and I now have a drum tight skin ready to be hypalon sealed.
I even cut
the section I had sewn using the lacing method and resewed it even
tighter
with my clamped method.
Sewing the skin as illustrated in Brinks book with an overlap so
all edges
are hidden looks good, and is possible, but sewing through three
layers of
canvas with a curved needle is *VERY* slow going (and tough on the
hands). I
found that it did help a little to have a small awl handy to poke
a hole for
the curved needle to come back up to the deck of the kayak.
However, next
time i think I will try to do a butt joint of some sort, even if it
means
that I switch to a (more expensive) nylon skin.
Andrew L McHaffie
Andrew_McHaffie@nynet.nybe.north-york.on.ca
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