Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 15:21:04 -0800 (PST)
From: Ve Smith <ve_hengda_smith@yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: baidarka carving in s
To: baidarka@lists.intelenet.net
They say the Devil loves a compromise; the boat I'm currently working
on has 2 chines, which should make the initial stability a little
better by adding roll resistance, decreasing the beam to 19"( my
current boat is 20)and lowering the sheer height amidship, for an
improved paddling position (I sometimes hit my knuckles, which smarts
considerably because I left the deck paint rough, reasoning that it
would be easier to climb onto from a paddle float), and decreasing the
length to 16 ft., figuring that I am probably not a strong enough
paddler to take advantage of the boat's long waterline.
What I'll probably end up with is a slow (2 chines, shorter
waterline), tippy (narrow beam) boat with poor direcional stability
(short keel) and poor secondary stability (low sheer). I've
occasionally built very bad boats by following my own ideas too far.
It may be that I'm incapable of learning from experience.
I'll let you know how it turns out and whether it affects carving,
which, according to conventional wisdom, it should.
Regards.
---Chuck Holst <CHUCK@MULTITECH.COM> wrote:
>
>
> The Anas Acuta was based on the West Greenland kayak. It is the hard
> chines of the Anas Acuta and Greenland kayaks that allow them to carve
> a turn. Baidarkas, of course, have multiple chines that make them
> perform more like a round-bottomed kayak.
>
> If you want to carve a turn, you will have to build a Greenland kayak.
> If you want speed, stick with your baidarka.
>
> Chuck Holst
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: baidarka [mailto:baidarka@lists.intelenet.net]
> Sent: Saturday, February 13, 1999 8:19 AM
> To: baidarka
> Subject: baidarka carving in s
>
>
> Everybody knows how clever the Aleuts were in figuring out how to
> build boats with narrow water lines but high volume top sides, which
> not only makes them rise to waves easily, but also (although it seems
> to have been of no interest to the Aleuts)makes them easy to roll. And
> I don't want to be a complainer, I know that it's seldom possible to
> optimize all the desirable characteristics of an engineered object,
> but I was in a pool last week working with a guy in an anas acuta and
> couldn't help noticing that when he leaned a little, his boat turned
> as if it had seen a snake in the water. I can lean until the gunwale's
> under, and not much of anything happens except a display of the boat's
> amazing secondary stability.
>
> Looking at the shape of the boat, I can see why this is-it's has just
> about the same underwater shape leaned as it does straight up. What I
> want to know is, are all baidarkas like this? Did I build a bum boat?
> Is there a way to fix this without giving up the baidarka's other
> sterling characteristics?
>
>
>
>
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