From: "James Mitchell" <mariner@seanet.com>
To: <baidarka@lists.intelenet.net>
Subject: Re: baidarka ouchie?
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 23:17:27 -0700
teehee. teeheeteeheeteehee.
Now get over here, you two. I gotta double that is only half lashed.
----- Original Message -----
From: Chris & Ellen Kohut <chriskayak@earthlink.net>
To: <baidarka@lists.intelenet.net>
Sent: Sunday, July 25, 1999 2:59 PM
Subject: Re: baidarka ouchie?
Unless you are a time study management man for Detroit......this is a
hopeless
issue. We do however, do better than the ancient Aleuts. They seemingly
practiced
corporate construction 'piecing out', or 'outsourcing' the fabrication of
different
components at different locations about the tundra, (my favorite explanation
for
the red 'spirit lines' on the gunwales, rather than a mystical pantheistic
connection to all living things......ergo: a representation of a circulatory
system
for the baidarka, was simply that the components were produced separately,
and
assembled in a larger community house that was smoky and dark.......the red
lines
said: " Inboard.......and this side up,.... dumbass.".....perfectly logical
explanation), and took up to a year or more per biadarka.
It simply put, is not the fastest boat to construct.........what is the
tally
on a 17 footer....some 600 separate lashings? And then comes the sewing of
the
skin aside. Something like that. Anyway, wear gloves. Your hands will
howl
after the first day, and you will cut a repetitive bleeding lashing groove
in
outboard edge of the first knuckle of both pinkies. But do you think I get
any
sympathy?
If I had to hazard a guess, I would say a good ten minutes per half a
rib--
that's keelson to gunwale (they are constructed upside down). If you don't
bleed,
you're not doing it right.
Yours, for the blood, guts, and pain of
ART
Chris
Barry E. Muller wrote:
> BTW, what is the "average" time per lashing? What is the "average" time
to sew
> on the hull &deck?
>
> Also, is there anyone on the list who lives in the Toledo-Detroit area
with a
> skin-on-frame kayak? I'd be interested in seeing the real McCoy and go
> paddling.
>
> Barry
>
> James Mitchell wrote:
>
> > teehee, he said while nursing sore fingers... there are 61 ribs in
Chinook
> > with four stringers on each side, plus the keel. That makes... 549
lashings
> > in the bottom of the hull. Don't even think about the sewing... you
will
> > be wishing you had your sanding block back. But the result is really
cool,
> > well worth it. Chicks will mob you, begging for a ride! (JUST BEING
> > FUNNY, KAYAK-LADIES!!!)
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Kirk Olsen <kolsen@imagelan.com>
> > To: baidarka <baidarka@lists.intelenet.net>
> > Sent: Friday, July 23, 1999 7:40 AM
> > Subject: Re: baidarka hello?
> >
> > On Fri, 23 Jul 1999, Barry E. Muller wrote:
> >
> > > I'm also finishing a CLC Chessie and came to the exact conclusions as
you
> > did.
> > > The boat building was fun, but I really hate working with the resins
and
> > > paints constantly. My next boat(s?) will be skin-on-frame because the
> > whole
> > > building process makes more sense to me (hull flexability, less resin
> > > therefore less toxic exposure except for coating the hull, "stick
built"
> > > construction, and definitly less sanding!).
> >
> > You can defitely build low toxic - coating the hull with house or porch
> > paint.
> >
> > As for sanding. You'll be trading the sanding for lashing and sewing.