From: "Dean Taylor" <deanrtaylor@worldnet.att.net>
To: <baidarka@lists.intelenet.net>
Subject: Re: baidarka Re:bad ideas float ?
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 17:12:56 -0500
PVC frames are used by a kayak called the Seabright Skimmer. It is a pseudo
skin boat. They have a web sit and advertise in Sea Kayaker. My memory is
the frame is illustrated in the web site. I think it is one PVC tube inside
another. The site might be worth a look. They are located in NJ.
Dean
-----Original Message-----
From: Stefano Moretti <s.moretti@agora.stm.it>
To: baidarka@lists.intelenet.net <baidarka@lists.intelenet.net>
Date: Wednesday, March 03, 1999 5:30 AM
Subject: Re:baidarka bad ideas float ?
>Michael Aragon wrote:
>
>> Thank you, yours is the most encouraging information I have received
>> yet.
>> As for PVC. I think I am going to build the frame, then decide if it
>> will
>> work. (...) You are the only person I have encountered with
>> experience in floating big
>> people...
>
>Michael, insisting with PVC structure provides your interlocutor with
>a wonderful opportunity to start gaining experience at sinking big
>people too...
>Bill is very honestly speaking of reinforced WOOD structure, not
>PVC.Stefano -
>
>> I added reinforcement to the deckbeam at
>> >the rear of the cockpit, the cockpit, additional bracing between that
>>
>> >deckbeam and the gunwales, additional supports to the cockpit and
>> made the
>> >ribs in the cockpit area four times as thick( 4 laminations instead
>> of two.
>>
>> >Experience has shown that the reinforcement in the cockpit area is
>> vital.
>> >The weights up to 300# put an inordinate stress on the rear of the
>> cockpit
>> >and the adjacent deck when getting in and out of the boat. The weight
>> also
>> >tends to bend the flat portion of the ribs from the paddlers feet to
>> one or
>> >two ribs aft of the seat.
>> >I use three stringers on each side and have not found any noticeable
>> stress
>> >on them. Make sure that the gunwales are of solid wood either
>> oversized or
>> >carefully laminated. There is high stress on the whole frame when the
>> boat
>> >tends to sag between waves.
>> >This experience shows me that boats can be made out of wood for
>> taller and
>> >heavier paddlers without any loss in performance and comfort. I have
>> not
>> >tried PVC
>
>
>