Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 09:21:34 -0800 (PST)
From: Ve Smith <ve_hengda_smith@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: baidarka Hello everyone....
To: baidarka@lists.intelenet.net
Try "Rhino". You can download an evaluation copy, complete with
tutorial at Rhino.com (I think, if not I'll e-mail you a correction
tomorrow).
I've downloaded a copy myself but haven't had much time to play;it
does have both solid modeling and surfacing capability, and should be
able to do the tasks you're interested in.
If you try it and like it, it costs round $800 for the real thing,
which is dirt cheap for a CAD program with the kind of capability
you're looking for.
Good luck.
---Gerald Maroske <gumaroske@email.uni-kiel.de> wrote:
>
> Am Wed, 17 Mar 1999 schriebst Du:
> >Harri wrote,
> >
> >>I saw in some advertisement a kayak called Angmagssalik. It is a
replika
> >>of Greenland eskimo kayak, and this was sold as a kit. Is this
'skin and
> >>frame' kit or 'stitch and glue' kit?
> >>
> >
> >I think this kit may have come from Britain by Granta (?). I have a
friend
> >who built one. It was stitch and glue. Fast but very tender.
Something like
> >paddling a submarine in short steep waves (all reports from the
owner).
> >
> >Cheers,
> >John Winters
>
> A friend of mine needed three kits to get one fairly well built
boat. The kits
> were from Great Britain and it was several years ago. It were
plywood boats and
> handled poorly.
>
> During my research in early stage folding kayaks (1920-1950) I got
the deep
> impression, that most of the kayak-design was not worth the name.
One guy built
> a boat and others covered it, maybe changed this and that but truly
refining the
> design was stopped by the WWII and the coming plastic boats, which
had a main
> disadvantage i.e. the expensive molds which make refinements nearly
impossible
> if you want to keep the costs low.
>
> Most of the first eskimostyle kayaks in Germany built in plastic
were derived
> from folding kayaks, mainly of the type 'Möll', designed by Franz
from Alber
> and constructed by Herbert Slanar, two guys who built more the one
folding
> kayak design. The main drawback of this design was the fact, that
they built
> these boats for wildwater (yes!! - Length 5,15). Few attempts were
made to
> built seakayaks which handled reasonable well, although some of them
looked
> quite exciting.
>
> So where's the point?
>
> We truly need modern construction and hydrodynamics coupled with tests
> to classify our boats and if possible to point out their main
characteristics
> in numbers. I think, computers alone won't build good boats, but
could be a
> good guide. At the moment, I search in vain for a program that has the
> following features:
>
> - capable to make greenlanstyle stem and sterns
> - calculation of the waterline and the tendency to weathercock for a
given
> center of weight and a given displacement
> - minimum of ten free selectable stations to define in numbers
> - calculation of the prismatic coefficient and wetted surface
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Gerald
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Gerald Maroske Phone: 0431 / 1 66 34
> Wörthstr. 36 email: gumaroske@email.uni-kiel.de
> 24116 Kiel http://134.245.86.198/Kayak/index.html
> Germany
>
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