Re: baidarka -digest V1 #329


Subject: Re: baidarka -digest V1 #329
From: Douglas Ingram - Red River Canoe & Paddle (redcanoe@pangea.ca)
Date: Wed Apr 05 2000 - 23:49:49 EDT


> So exactly what you get when you purchase "Doug Fir" is anyone's guess!
>
> Peter

As long as its not "Doug Fur" that they want, then it really might be skin
off my back! I'll try to convince them that what they really want is the
Southern species, they might leave me alone...

Douglas Ingram
Lorette, Manitoba

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> From: Peter A. Chopelas <pac@premier1.net>
> To: 'baidarka@lists.intelenet.net'
> Subject: RE: baidarka -digest V1 #329
> Date: Tuesday, April 04, 2000 12:33 PM
>
> To make matters more interesting, for grading and construction purposes
the
> Western Grading Rules will lump Douglas-Fir in with Western Larch since
> both behave similar in strength, weight, and fastener holding. So
usually
> Doug Fir is sold as Douglas-Fir/Larch, species group stamp D-F/L. Larch

> is a very different type of tree! However, Doug Fir will also be sold in

> it's own group labeled "D. Fir", and there is also Douglas Fir-Larch
> (north) for Canadian sources (which has slightly different structural
> properties) and Douglas Fir (south) for USA sources (again with slightly
> different properties).
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stephen Graham [SMTP:stephengraham@safestar.com]
> Sent: Monday, April 03, 2000 4:59 PM
> To: baidarka@lists.intelenet.net
> Subject: RE: baidarka -digest V1 #329
>
> Douglas-fir is the name of an entire genus of trees that contains six
> species--two native to North America and four native to eastern Asia.
> Because of its similarity to other genera, Douglas-fir has given
botanists
> fits. It has, at various times, been called a pine, a spruce, a hemlock,
> and
> a true fir. In 1867, because of its distinctive cones, it was given its
own
> genus--Pseudotsuga--which means false hemlock. The hyphen in the common
> name
> lets us know that Douglas-fir is not a "true" fir--that it's not a member

> of
> the Abies genus.
>
> Only one Douglas-fir is native to the Pacific Northwest, and it's by far
> the
> most important member of the entire genus. Its common name is identical
to
> that of the genus, reflecting its importance. Douglas-fir (Pseudotsuga
> menziesii) is Oregon's state tree.
>
>
> See http://www.orst.edu/instruct/for241/con/dfgen.html
>
> Steve - Current Oregonian (in Memphis, TN at the moment)
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-baidarka@lists.intelenet.net
> [mailto:owner-baidarka@lists.intelenet.net]On Behalf Of Jeff
> Sent: Monday, April 03, 2000 3:13 PM
> To: baidarka@ns1.intelenet.net
> Subject: Re: baidarka -digest V1 #329
>
>
> >except for Douglas Fir which is 'pseudotsuga douglasie'.
>
> I think its PSEUDOTSUGA menziesii
>
> Jeff - Former Oregonian
>
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