Subject: Re: baidarka Artificial Baleen
From: James Mitchell (mariner@seanet.com)
Date: Wed Mar 15 2000 - 00:58:34 EST
tried it once, but didn't inhale.
(sorry, Harvey, couldn't resist)
----- Original Message -----
From: Harvey Golden <qayaq@pacifier.com>
To: <baidarka@lists.intelenet.net>
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2000 8:29 PM
Subject: Re: baidarka Artificial Baleen
Dear Peter, and all,
I've forgotten what the artificial 'sinew' I had the bad-luck with was made
of; it was purchased at Tandy Leather Co. From what I've been told (and
have since seen) about the wet/dry & hot/cold cycles of nylon and polyester
(with regards to kayak skins, at least), it would make sense that the sinew
that failed me was of nylon. All my other boats are lashed with a tarred
nylon seining twine (of very small diameter: 1/16")-- this stuff holds up
extremely well; 30 kayaks tied with it so far. The tarred and twisted
variety is superb, and it stays taut. My first kayak's lashings were of
garden variety Jute twine, oiled with linseed. They too are still holding
up just fine. Anyone tried Hemp? I almost picked up a roll the other day;
Its supposed to be very rot-resistant, having been prized for ships' lines &
rigging, etc.
Harvey
----- Original Message -----
From: Peter A. Chopelas <pac@premier1.net>
To: <baidarka@lists.intelenet.net>
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2000 12:25 PM
Subject: RE: baidarka Artificial Baleen
> Harvey,
>
> Looking around for the artificial sinew I have discovered there are
several
> different types of fibers used. The best is purportedly polyester (though
> I have not yet found a local source of it and I have no experience). But
I
> have found both nylon and other fibers also used and they look the same.
> Nylon will loosen up when wet. Polyester should not do this and should
> also be more rot resistant. Verify what you used before because I would
> like to know too, before I get started on a large double I want to build!
>
> Peter
> Arlington, WA
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Harvey Golden [SMTP:qayaq@pacifier.com]
> Sent: Monday, March 13, 2000 11:47 AM
> To: baidarka@lists.intelenet.net
> Subject: baidarka Artificial Baleen
>
> "Coming to a Dumpster Near You. . . "
>
> I've come across a rather fine substitute Baleen for lashing material. . .
> Its nothing to ask for by name at the hardware store: It is a plastic
> strapping material that is about a 1/16" thick or less, and about 1/2" w
> ide.
> It can be found black, white, and clear (as far as I've seen)-- black
being
> prefferable for asthetic reasons. (Perhaps discussion about chemical
> content
> and U.V./thermal properties will come up-- stay tuned.) Anyhow, It is
very
> strong, stiff, yet pliable, AND, it splits easily-- much as does baleen;
It
> has a grain to it. It holds knots very well, and lies flat. I've not yet
> used it, but have ammassed a small stash, and shall use it tomorrow to
lash
> the chines and keelson to the ribs of a Greenland kayak replica. Just
> thought to let people know about this stuff. . . I'll keep you all posted
> about how well it works. (If you don't hear from me, look for the
> obituary!)
>
> Harvey Golden www.pacifier.com/~qayaq
>
> P.S. I do NOT use the artificial sinew-- I used it once on a baidarka and
> made good tight lashings, but I found it slacked over time and the kayak's
> ribs gradually collapsed, (making it more of an 'artifactual' replica, I
> suppose). Has anyone else had this problem? I hear so much talk about
how
> good it is, and have in fact heard nothing but how well it works-- even
> long
> term. Do I just have bad luck? If so, should I not try the artificial
> Baleen?
>
>
>
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