Subject: Re: baidarka Permanent foam flotation?
From: Bob Klemick (klemick@home.com)
Date: Mon May 01 2000 - 22:39:04 EDT
I have the mariner kayak bags also, and they are great, just fill what you need,
they're like...... adjustable. bob klemick
David Moeny wrote:
> I had trouble finding bags that would fill my baidarka until someone
> pointed me to mariner kayaks.
> They have bags which are larger than standard. These completely fill the
> bow/stern areas.
>
> Dave M.
> juneau, ak
>
> At 12:09 PM 5/1/2000 -0700, you wrote:
> >Jack,
> >
> >I've had experience with this foam and kayaks - and I wouldn't do it. My
> >buddy and I built matching cedar strip kayaks, he poured expanding foam in
> >the ends and I didn't (I use floatation bags). The foam is MUCH more heavy
> >and dense than you would think, he used a 2 quart (I think) kit and it
> >probably added a good 7 pounds to his boat. This weight was in the ends
> >which is exactly where you don't want it. After paddling for about 6 months
> >he was so unhappy with the system compared to my version of the boat that he
> >had a really fun time trying to chip it out of the ends. As someone else
> >already mentioned the foam does absorb water over time making things that
> >much worse. Have you tried looking for white water floatation bags that are
> >meant for the rear? Some of these bags are essentially spit in two, making
> >very long and skinny bags that would fit in the bow and stern pretty well.
> >
> >Good luck,
> >Greg Pearson
> >
> >
> >on 5/1/00 4:57 AM, Jack Gilman at hudsonsb@yahoo.com wrote:
> >
> > > Hi All-
> > > I am building a West Greenland kayak from Bob
> > > Boucher?s fine video and have just finished the frame.
> > > This boat is intended for day use, not for trips. I
> > > bought a few float bags for bow & stern, but they
> > > don?t fill all that much space.
> > > What I was thinking of doing is to use an expanding
> > > foam to create permanent flotation in the bow & stern
> > > sections, like a canoe, with the float bags filling
> > > the areas that are left over. I feel that way I will
> > > have as much flotation as possible, with some
> > > removable in case I want to take a dry bag, etc. I
> > > don?t really want to use a sea sock.
> > > I was planning to ?skin? the boat temporarily with
> > > cardboard, (place in some plastic sheeting to
> > > encapsulate) carefully layer in the foam with the top
> > > of the boat open. I then can remove the cardboard,
> > > and mold the foam if neccesary to avoid it contacting
> > > the real skin.
> > > Does this make sense? Will it work effectively? Has
> > > anyone used expanding foam to provide permanent
> > > flotation? Or will it just be a big mess?
> > > Thanks for your thoughts-
> > > Jack Gilman wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > =====
> > > * Check out the Yonkers Paddling & Rowing club
> > > online at yprc.org.
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