Subject: Re: baidarka Rotting canvas [was scantlings]
From: Phil Ellis (pcoellis@hotmail.com)
Date: Sat Oct 28 2000 - 21:36:25 EDT
I'll definitely be using either nylon or polyester from now on, I really
wasn't too pleased with the strength of the canvas, which had several holes
in it even before microflora and fauna took charge.
The kid kayak thing interests me as I expect to knock something together for
my grandson over the Winter. How old are your kids? Which approach did you
take (wide and stable or skinny with outriggers)? How did it work out?
Anything you'd change? Any general observations?
Regards,
Phil
>From: "Peter A. Chopelas" <pac@premier1.net>
>Reply-To: baidarka@lists.intelenet.net
>To: "'baidarka@lists.intelenet.net'" <baidarka@lists.intelenet.net>
>Subject: baidarka Rotting canvas [was scantlings]
>Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 16:12:43 -0700
>
>Phil wrote:
>
> >I paddle mostly in fresh water, and was out so often at the end of
> > the summer that my boat was constantly wet for better than a month.
> > Consequently, the skin is now so weak that every time I go out, a new
>tear
> > develops someplace. The skin is now around 10% duct tape and I always
>carry
> > a roll when I paddle.
>
>
>
>I have seen canvas have this problem before though I have not experienced
>it: the first coat of paint I used on a "miniature" kayak I built for my
>daughters is one third turpentine to two thirds boiled linseed oil and I
>added some Japan dryer and a fungicides additive. You can buy the additive
>in paint stores, it is specifically formulated for damp climates. I also
>used this on the wood finish. By thinning it it soaks all the way through
>and there is no uncoated part of the canvas, even on the inside. And I
>have not seen any mildew or mold yet after a season of mixed fresh and salt
>water use and storage in an unheated garage. Do not know how much
>difference it would make in the long run but it only cost a few dollars and
>figured it could not hurt, and I have seen mildew spots develop before on
>canvas after only a few weeks in fresh water (at least in the climate of
>the Pacific NW). My daughters will out grow the kayak before the skin will
>need replacing anyway but I though I was worth a try for future kayaks.
>
>Though I found that nylon is stronger, lighter, and costs about the same
>(if you get it from George Dyson) so I would not use canvas again either
>unless I could not get any nylon (canvas can be purchased locally almost
>anywhere).
>
>Peter
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