Subject: Re: [baidarka] Skinboats Rule!
From: Jim Voeller (jvoeller@home.com)
Date: Wed Oct 17 2001 - 20:54:02 EDT
Please expand on the West Side EFT boat you admire -
avialability, etc.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Patrick Campbell" <patrick@laurelglen.com>
To: <baidarka@paddlewise.net>
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 11:21 AM
Subject: RE: [baidarka] Skinboats Rule!
> I have been paddling a West Side EFT for a while, and I think of all the
> commercial (non-skin) boats, it has a lot in common with a baidarka, as
odd
> as this may seem at first. It has a rounded bottom, low intitial and high
> secondary stability, low windage, long waterline, broad stern, modest
> rocker. It's a great boat, quite fast, and a good surfer. At least one
> commercial supplier, then, has apparently learned from the old guys and
has
> not prostituted sexiness for practicality.
>
> Patrick (also a Youknowwhatcapp owner)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-baidarka@cyclone.muddypuppies.com
> [mailto:owner-baidarka@cyclone.muddypuppies.com]On Behalf Of Phil Ellis
> Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 6:14 AM
> To: baidarka@paddlewise.net
> Subject: Re: [baidarka] Skinboats Rule!
>
>
>
> Peter,
>
> As a matter of fact, I've almost finished reskinning my baidarka and will
be
> able to make a direct comparison. My previous experience with it is that
you
> are about right on all counts...I'm able to paddle it about 1 mph faster
> than I can my Greenlander, although whether that's because of the boat's
> characteristics or mine is a good question.
>
> The one thing I don't care for in the baidarka is how high off the water
it
> sits. In my Greenlander, I'm maybe three inches above the surface, which
> feels very connected, and I like it. Also, the rear deck is too high for
> good laybacks, although the baidarka is actually easier to roll than my
> Greenlander, probably because it has a lot of secondary stability that
kicks
> in just as you're coming around.
>
> They are homely, too. No way around it. When I was carrying the baidarka
> around on my car, strangers would look at it and say "You make that
> yourself?" in a real suspicious sort of way. With the Greenlander it's
> usually more like "What a beautiful boat! Did you make it yourself?", and
> they go on to ask how hard it is to build one and where they can get plans
> (the answer, of course, is "nowhere").
>
> Bill Lowe's boats are indeed mighty fine. I paddled two of them at the
Skin
> Boat Gathering and found them to be a lot more capable than I am. I
> understand that our illustrious list master, Kirk Olsen, has done very
well
> racing them. Bill's bow treatment makes a lot of sense, too, although I've
> rebuilt mine in the traditional manner.
>
> Can you cite the SK tank test you mention? I'd like to read it.
>
> Regards,
>
> Phil
>
> P.S. The rec boat kayakers I paddle with are a mixed bunch of bike racers,
> adventure racers and triathletes, all of whom are 20 years younger than I
> am, so cruising is only sort of cruising. If they ever catch on to the
> light, narrow boat thing, I'll be paddling by myself.
>
>
>
>
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