Subject: Re: [baidarka] Paddle?
From: kattenbo@greennet.net
Date: Fri Jan 04 2002 - 17:56:15 EST
I don't think turning it over is the answer -- this style of paddle is
meant to be used with the ridged face as the power face (facing the
kayaker) and the flat face as the back face.
I was just out with a prototype from Cricket modelled after a museum owned
example. Found the best method was to use a stroke style very similar to
a Euro style -- reach out to catch about where your feet are, with the
paddle blade tilted so the bottom edge (nearest the water) is closest to
the bow. Stoke through, with the blade angle naturally changing from this
bottom-forward-tilt to a more vertical orientation to a top-tilt-forward
at exit. A long stroke, with the exit well back seemed to maximize
propulpsion. The bottom-forward-tilt at catch seemed to
minimize/eliminate the dragging of air and cavitation. Paddle seemed very
effective (but I think I'll stick with my Greenland sticks -- like the
more symetrical blade).
Hope this helps.
Keith
---- North Shore Kayak Instruction, Inc. www.northshorekayakinstruction.com NDK Romany Explorer, red over white Greenland "Home-builts" (various)owner-baidarka@paddlewise.net wrote on 01/04/2002 12:15:39 AM:
> Turning it over will be a pain because the shaft is round into the palm and > left square for a better grip with the fingers. I'll try it this weekend > and if that turns out to be the answer (meaning I shaped either the blades > or the shaft backwards, duh) I'll completely round the shaft for the interim > and hit Home Depot for another 2x. Oh well, nothing like looking silly in > front of a lot of people. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Greg Weiss <nativeways@hotmail.com> > To: <baidarka@paddlewise.net> > Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 7:51 AM > Subject: Re: [baidarka] Paddle? > > > > I've found that this may be technique, though the "rounded" face > (concave?) > > may cause not only noice but fluttering. Try edging back a little > (rotating > > the blade angle back ever so slightly) on entry to let the air escape > before > > the stoke is buried. You'll get used to the feeling. > > or > > > > Turn it over :) > > > > Greg > > > > > > >From: "James Mitchell" <mariner@seanet.com> > > >Reply-To: baidarka@paddlewise.net > > >To: <baidarka@paddlewise.net> > > >Subject: Re: [baidarka] Paddle? > > >Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 18:45:34 -0800 > > > > > >Turn it over. > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: <brian.nystrom@att.net> > > >To: <baidarka@paddlewise.net> > > >Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 8:29 AM > > >Subject: Re: [baidarka] Paddle? > > > > > > > > > > It's probably more a mattrer of technique than paddle > > > > shape. If you reach way forward with the paddle - as you > > > > would with a Euro paddle - it will tend to plop on > > > > entry. This also occurs if you start pulling the paddle > > > > back before it enters the water. Both of these > > > > situations will cause air to be drawn in behind the > > > > blade, which is what causes the noise you're hearing. > > > > Concentrate on getting a smooth entry, getting the blade > > > > fully immersed, then applying power to the paddle. That > > > > should eliminate the noise and aeration. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > Brian > > > > > > > > > I'm getting a lot of noise when I paddle. Not only a splashy entry > > >(which I'm > > > > > working on, hey only my third time out) but a gurgling as air > bubbles > > >"follow" > > > > > the blade through the water. I'm not sure if this is "right" or not > > >but > > >I > > > > > know it's kind of annoying and it occurs to me that it wouldn't make > > >for > > >a > > > > > very silent hunter. The power face of my paddle is rounded and the > > >back > > >I > > > > > left flat. Is there any reshaping of either face that might help to > > >eliminate > > > > > this noise? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vaya Con Dios. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > Baidarka Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to > > >be > > > > > reproduced outside Baidarka or Baidarka archives without author's > > >permission > > > > > Submissions: baidarka@paddlewise.net > > > > > Subscriptions: baidarka-request@paddlewise.net > > > > > Searchable archive: http://rtpnet.org/robroy/baidarka > > > > > > > > > - > > > > Baidarka Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to > be > > > > reproduced outside Baidarka or Baidarka archives without author's > > >permission > > > > Submissions: baidarka@paddlewise.net > > > > Subscriptions: baidarka-request@paddlewise.net > > > > Searchable archive: http://rtpnet.org/robroy/baidarka > > > > > > > > > > > > > >- > > >Baidarka Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be > > >reproduced outside Baidarka or Baidarka archives without author's > > >permission > > >Submissions: baidarka@paddlewise.net > > >Subscriptions: baidarka-request@paddlewise.net > > >Searchable archive: http://rtpnet.org/robroy/baidarka > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com > > > > - > > Baidarka Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be > > reproduced outside Baidarka or Baidarka archives without author's > permission > > Submissions: baidarka@paddlewise.net > > Subscriptions: baidarka-request@paddlewise.net > > Searchable archive: http://rtpnet.org/robroy/baidarka > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------- > Sign Up for NetZero Platinum Today > Only $9.95 per month! > http://my.netzero.net/s/signup?r=platinum&refcd=PT97 > - > Baidarka Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be > reproduced outside Baidarka or Baidarka archives without author's permission > Submissions: baidarka@paddlewise.net > Subscriptions: baidarka-request@paddlewise.net > Searchable archive: http://rtpnet.org/robroy/baidarka >
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