Subject: Re: [baidarka] Nylon skin
From: thomas-simpson (thomas-simpson@shaw.ca)
Date: Sat Aug 23 2003 - 00:21:36 EDT
While I am as willing as anyone to find the best price on fabric and
prefer to buy in my own country it is doubtful that George Dyson is
getting rich selling fabric and other supplies.. I have yet to see
anyplace have better prices or service - his advice is as good as it
gets. Sure hope George moves back to Canada .... those darn brokerage
fees at the border seem unjustified!
Tom Simpson , Comox BC
Bill wrote:
>You might also try contacting Dyson to see if he has any advice on
>sourcing the stuff. According to his book _Baidarka_ the nylon he used
>(originally 26 oz, which really would resist small-arms fire) came from
>the pulp-mill industry, where it formed monster vacuum cleaner bags.
>Surely there's a pulp-mill industry on yer side of the pond? At least
>in Russia, which still has commercial forests.
>
>Also, 12-14 oz material isn't that heavy.
>
>Bill
>
>On Fri, 22 Aug 2003, Peter Chopelas wrote:
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>>>Maybe you've already thought of this, but have you tried makers of
>>>commercial filtration equipment? That's where the nylon skin George Dyson
>>>uses comes from (probably the poly skin too). Used I believe in
>>>dust-collection gear I think. Somebody over there's gotta make it.
>>>
>>>
>>If I recall, I think it was only the heavy weight polester that is
>>"industrial filter fabric". It is in the 12 to 14 oz per sq. yd. weight.
>>Pretty heavy, and the polester is tougher to work with since it does not
>>have much stretch, but this might be a sourse to look into. Someone may
>>inventory it in Europe and willing to sell you 3 yards of it, or at least
>>"piggy back" it on top of some else's larger order.
>>
>>You might also investigate if anyone imports "grey goods" [unfinished raw
>>fabric] and does the final finishing of fabric in Europe. This is a common
>>pratice in the textile trade to avoid high import tariffs. The idea is you
>>are importing only raw materials, and doing the finish work locally,
>>therefore avoid the tariff. They will dye and and coat it and do other
>>finishing treatments, which you do not want. You would have to talk them
>>into selling you a "sample" of the unfinished and untreated raw goods. You
>>can tell either an importer, or the finisher, you are very low volumn
>>"finisher" which your product requires the material in raw form since it has
>>a very specialized finish on it. which would be entirely true.
>>
>>Peter
>>
>>Peter
>>
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