Subject: Re: [baidarka] Life and death and the whole damn thing
From: Will Samson (willsamson@yahoo.co.uk)
Date: Thu Nov 04 2004 - 15:10:50 EST
Yes. And still the West deliberately flouts the Kyoto accord.
I despair. Will the politicians ever get the REAL problems facing mankind
into perspective?
Sorry - Don't mean to bring politics into all this, but it seems that the
people of the US didn't have much opportunity, yesterday, to vote for
anybody who cares about these things enough to do something about it; though
I doubt if many voters would have taken the opportunity, since very little
money is being directed at Madison Avenue on this issue, and that seems to
be what counts.
Even Queen Elizabeth (whose reign has a much longer tenure than that of any
politician) has broken her rule not to get involved in politics and has
spoken out in protest about the state of the planet. She's already
witnessed the deleterious effects of climate change on her own estates at
Sandringham and Balmoral..
Sadly, I fear it's too late already. I'm an old man, but I worry for my
descendents.
Bill
> Then there's Victoria, BC...never mind the storm drains, they regularly
dump
> city sewage into the sea.
>
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> Subject: Re: [baidarka] Life and death and the whole damn thing
>
> I am afraid that my beloved Japan has a huge problem looming with this.
> Their storm drains flow directly into the ocean from which they get
> their seafood. Not good. What's more, the storm sewers are so
> integrated into the street and housing systems that it will be nearly
> impossible to retrofit treatment systems onto them -- that is what you
> get for introducing modern life and density into 800 year old cities.
> The trash problem is really acute after a typhoon. Did you see
> "Spirited Away" ("Chihiro" in Japan), the scene where the River Monster
> is being bathed in the large tub by Chihiro and she pulls all that gunk
> out of the water? That is Miyazaki's way of making a statement about
> this... I understand he was involved in river cleanup campaigns. Shiro
> Ozaki, owner of Horizon Kayaks in Naruto, does frequent beach cleanup
> trips with the local kayakers.
>
> Stewardship. We are the stewards. We must take better care of Her.
>
> On Nov 4, 2004, at 9:41 AM, William Nettles wrote:
>
> > When I first arrived in Los Angeles I used to go swimming the first
> > sunny day after the rain stopped. I had to swim around lawn clippings
> > and lots of plastic baggies and styrofoam and other bits of trash. I
> > was doing this about one block from the Pico Storm drain.
> > This wasn't smart. I didn't get anything. I wouldn't swim in that
> > water after a rain, but I would paddle in it if I didn't plan on doing
> > any rolls.
> >
> > A current 'truism' is that storm drains carry lots of e coli bacteria
> > from Homeless people. There's lot of e coli carried by storm drain run
> > off, but it's from pets, mostly dogs.
> >
> > A guy I used to know at my Masters Swimmer group told me he contracted
> > a 2 1/2 year long disease (I think it was schistomiasis could have
> > been something else) ocean swimming right after a storm in Costa Rica.
> >
> > So we do need to think about the water but not fear it.
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