Subject: Re: [baidarka] great whites
From: Cynthia Gilbert (cynthia_gilbert@comcast.net)
Date: Wed Dec 14 2005 - 09:21:16 EST
I think that would have dampened my spirit too. Something about sharks,
gives me the creeps. Though all my diver friends say not to worry.
Makes me grateful for Lake MI - nothing out there that wants to eat me. Only
hazard we have here is the drunken motor boaters and jetskiers, and they are
nowhere to be seen out of season, so right now, we have the whole place to
ourselves.
Cynthia
----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Calman" <scalman@ucsd.edu>
To: <baidarka@paddlewise.net>
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 5:34 PM
Subject: RE: [baidarka] great whites
>I choose not to woory about sharks at all. We all have a much bigger chance
> of getting killed on the way home from the office and life is WAY too
> short
> to worry about death. Frankly, death by shark attack sounds a lot better
> then bleeding out in a smashed car on the side of the road like my son's
> kindergarden teacher last week... My advice would be to enjoy every
> moment
> you have on the water (and dirt too) and deal with the fact that it truly
> is
> wilderness just 50 yards offshore.
>
> Scott Calman
>
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-baidarka@paddlewise.net [mailto:owner-baidarka@paddlewise.net]
> On Behalf Of Douglas Huft
> Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2005 7:53 PM
> To: baidarka@paddlewise.net
> Subject: Re: [baidarka] great whites
>
> It seems like before the attack was when you did not want to be on the
> water. After the shark has chowed down would be the time to relax and get
> back on the water know that its not hungry.
> -- doug
>
>
> on 12/10/05 8:33 AM, John Gerlach at gerlach1@pacbell.net wrote:
>
>> I did some research at the Bodega Bay Marine lab over a summer a few
>> years ago and got to room with a couple great white shark researchers.
>> The sharks breed in Tomales Bay and hunt extensively along the coast
>> and offshore islets and islands for marine mammals. The sharks are
>> ambush hunters and one of the methods used to get photos of them is to
>> tow a Boogie Board size raft with a camera pointing at the bottom. The
> size of the board triggers the attacks.
>> They had some great shots of approaching sharks and then jaws driving
>> upward from near the bottom and then they'd switch to a surface camera
>> so you could see the raft pop up into the air when the shark hit it.
>> Some of the footage filmed at the Farallones made it into TV in a show
> about the great whites.
>>
>> I've heard folks say that you really only have to worry about the
>> smaller and less experienced males taking a bite out of you because
>> the big females have learned that humans are not worth the calories
>> required to digest us. I didn't ask the researchers this question but
>> after seeing the ferocity of the attacks on the rafts .....
>>
>> One day we were using the Lab's sit on tops to surf (more often than
>> not dumping and swimming after the boats) a small point that leads
>> into the cove by the Lab and the Dive Boss ordered us all out of the
>> water as a great white had just hit a sea lion right in front of him
>> while he was diving just off the point. There wasn't much interest in
> surfing the point after that.
>>
>> John Gerlach
>>
>> wolfgang brinck <nativewater@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> --- Christopher Stewart wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "My biggest concern is the fact that i am located in the red triangle
>>> and am a sitting duck when fishing."
>>>
>>> Good luck. Where I'll be fishing, I'll be at much greater risk from
>>> Grady Whites than Great Whites.
>>>
>>
>> The Farallones which lie some thirty miles west of SF are supposedly
>> much favored by the great whites. Someone has written a book about
>> them called Devil's Teeth. In any case, though the water is supposedly
>> teeming with sharks, the Russians did have a post out there and people
>> did operate kayaks in the area - the following is an excerpt from the
>> Ft Ross historical site:
>>
>>
>> "The Russians also had an artel (a work group of hunters ) for at
>> least fourteen years on the Farallon Islandsrocky volcanic specks
>> which lie west of the entrance to San Francisco Bay. Here bird eggs
>> were gathered, birds were killed for food, and their skins were used
>> for garments. Sea lions were killed to provide skins and sinews for
>> the baidarkas, meat and blubber for food, bladders and intestines for
>> waterproof clothing and oil for lamps. This desolate post was
>> populated by a Russian overseer, Alutiiq hunters with their wives, and
>> some Native Californians. The archaeological record also reflects this
>> ethnic composition, as artifacts recovered on the Farallons represent
>> elements of Russian, Alaska Native and California Native cultures."
>>
>> Wolfgang
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