Re: [baidarka] Gunwale height

William H. Low (billow@capecod.net)
Fri, 17 Jul 1998 15:36:18 -0400

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From: "William H. Low" <billow@capecod.net>
To: <baidarka@lists.intelenet.net>
Subject: Re: [baidarka] Gunwale height
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 15:36:18 -0400

While the toxicity of many of the best coatings can be a problem their
physical properties and longevity are a real plus. The toxicity problem can
be met with proper precautions. I have coated a number of boats with UA-75
one of the most nasty materials and by using a fresh air breathing
apparatus, proper clothing, gloves and some common sense I don't detect any
of the fumes. The time to coat a boat including setup time is about an
hour.

It does take some additional precautions but the results are worth it.

Bill Low

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> From: Wolfgang Brinck <wolfgang.brinck@hksystems.com>
> To: baidarka@lists.intelenet.net
> Subject: Re: [baidarka] Gunwale height
> Date: Friday, July 17, 1998 11:33 AM
>
> A few years back, I inquired about the address of the author who wrote a
> book on building plywood skiffs. The editor I talked to said that the
> guy wasn't building boats any more because he'd become sensitized to the
> epoxy. So toxicity is definitely an issue.
>
> I use canvas mostly because it's cheap, but whenever I replace a skin
> that has rotted, I think longingly of more durable synthetics.
> Apparently people on this list have dealt with the nasty chemicals and
> not poisoned themselves, at least not fatally, but as you point out, the
> effects are cumulative.
>
> Back when I was in school, taking chemistry courses, somebody told me
> that the life expectancy of organic chemists - people who work with a
> lot of solvents - is 5 years less than that of other chemists.
>
> It's kind of like being a bomber pilot. You can fly a number of missions
> and come back alive, but in the long run, the odds are against you.
>
> Wolfgang
>
> David Baranoski wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, 16 Jul 1998, Chris Kohut wrote:
> >
> > > At the risk of inspiring incendiary missives, (INCOMMING!!!!) might
I ask, if
> > > there are skinning materials such as nylon out there,(which I found
to be
> > > fairly easy to work with), what are the properties and advantages of
choosing
> > > #10 canvas? Or are there better skinning materials than the two
mentioned?
> > > Or is this part of the great Vanilla/Chocolate debate?
> > > Chris
> > >
> >
> > Just a matter of choice. Personally, I'm going with the canvas (and a
> > lashed baidarka in the big picture) for the "natural" effect...no harsh
> > toxins involved. Having been a tool & die maker for a couple of
decades,
> > I've been exposed to PCB's, dioxins and furons from the burning of my
heat
> > treating oil, and don't even ask about the effects of 1,1,1
trichlorathane
> > vapours from the older tapping compounds. In this project, I don't have
to
> > worry about epoxies, glues, xylene, etc. Mind you, I'm not looking
forward
> > to stretching the canvas, but I'm looking at it as an acceptable
trade-off
> > to feeling like an old carp in Hamilton Harbour :)
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > David Baranoski
> > Thorold, Ontario
> > Canada
> >