Subject: Re: baidarka Atlantic white cedar for gunwales?
From: Native Ways (nativeways@hotmail.com)
Date: Thu Nov 30 2000 - 21:58:03 EST
For those of you who think there is plenty of yellow cedar to build as many
boats as we want...
You can make enough toothpicks to deforest the world...
yellow cedar he gets is not the best, and that it is better to go up to
Canada where the timber laws aren't as strict and cut the old growth with
the nice tight growth rings. And I thought he was salvaging his wood! Now
what? I've already built two kayaks and a 26' Umiak out of the stuff!
Truth is more and more people are building boats and not many are willing to
search for the most environmentally friendly forester.
Please don't tell anyone how to ship the remaining old growth "anywhere".
Japan already has most of our trees. Lets Keep it secret. THere are plenty
of substitutes Locally grown just about everywhere. Thanks
Greg
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>Yes trees grow back , not in our lifetime though for a 14" diam yellow
>cedar.
>
>If one relies on 'professional foresters' for the health of the forest
>ecosystem
>you have decisions being made for economic reasons that should be made for
>ecological ones.
>
>Small scale local woodlot operators and community owned forests are the
>only
>ways to go.
>
>
>
>"Peter A. Chopelas" wrote:
>
> > Greg and the rest of you concerned with this kind of thing,
> >
> > Trees grow back! The size you need are easily cut from "crop" second,
> > third and even fourth growth trees. The amount of wood used in a fleet
>of
> > baidarkas is negligible anyway. The best way to make sure these species
> > keep getting replanted is by keeping a healthy commercial market for it.
> > If no one buys it, the foresters will not plant it.
> >
> > Do not get me wrong, I love the ancient forests and wish them to stay
> > preserved, but what is mostly commercially cut is second (or more)
>growth
> > "crop" trees. I mostly build with salvaged lumber, the most economical
>of
> > all and it does not cut down any trees, but the concern for using wood
>to
> > build kayaks way out of proportion the real problem, which is
>mismanagement
> > of the forests. Certainly not because too many people are building
>kayaks
> > with wood!
> >
> > Peter
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