Subject: Re: baidarka Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 17:58:26 -0800
From: Native Ways (nativeways@hotmail.com)
Date: Mon Dec 04 2000 - 16:54:33 EST
James,
When you peak of "flare" are you talking about the beam, or the dead rise
from the keel to the chine, making it more of a V hull? It sounds like you
increased the beam on Raven at mid-ships but left the old ribs as-is which
would, I think, flatten the bottom a little, effectively making less "V",
and a shallower cock-pit area. No? How is tracking with a beam wind compared
to before?
Greg
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>Yeah, I think flare has a lot more to do with the stability than does width
>per se. Since our discussion, I completed and tested Raven. I can now hang
>her on her gunwale and spin her; previously, I couldn't take my eyes off
>the
>water. This is the second hull I have done this too, the first being Orca,
>with same result. And Heron, which was designed from the beginning with the
>additional secondary flare, I have actually dosed off while sitting in the
>reeds at Spencer Island in the late afternoon summer sun. I think you
>could
>fish all day in that boat.
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>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Phil Sharp" <srelt@msn.com>
>To: "BaidarkaSubmission" <baidarka@lists.intelenet.net>
>Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2000 5:22 PM
>Subject: Re: baidarka Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 17:58:26 -0800
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> > Thanks for the idea James. I had not considered doing it that way. I
>had
> > thought about increasing gunwale width, but then proportionately
>increasing
> > the stringer width as well, and maybe adding one more stringer each
>side
>to
> > support the added width. Your idea is intiguing, though. Now, do you
>do
>any
> > fishing from your kayak, and if not, do you think you could if you
>wanted
>to?
> > Sorry it took me so long to get back to you; I have been out of town.
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> > From: James Mitchell
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> > Subject: Re: baidarka Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 17:58:26 -0800
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> > Phil, I recently modified my first hull to increase its stability.
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> > Originally it was 17'-2" x 20.5", now it is 17'-1.5" by 22.25". All the
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> > increase is at the gunwale. I replaced all the deck beams to increase
>the
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> > width, moving the old ones forward a station (and retrimming them).
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> > The modification has worked very well. With no noticeable impact on
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> > I have easily increased the effective stability nearly double to the
>point
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> > where I can hang the hull on its gunwale clear above the cockpit rim.
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> > Prior, if I tried that, it would have capsized. What I have confirmed
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> > is the impact of flare on the stability. I would encourage you to build
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> > much flare into your hull as possible. That way the stability will be
>there
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> > when needed, but won't slow you down when you don't.
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> > ----- Original Message -----
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> > From: "Phil Sharp" <srelt@msn.com>
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> > To: "BaidarkaSubmission" <baidarka@lists.intelenet.net>
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> > Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 8:26 AM
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> > > Do any of you fish regularly from your Baidarkas? If so, did you
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> > > dimensions to make it more stable? What are those dimensions--length,
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