Re: baidarka stability


Subject: Re: baidarka stability
From: Phil Sharp (srelt@msn.com)
Date: Wed Dec 20 2000 - 15:55:36 EST


HMMMM. Perhaps James, but another way to look at it is that the natives are
intelligent enough that, given modern tools and materials, they could improve
baidarkas immeasurably. That goes for the apparel as well. Since they are
not dumb, they would use the best of what was at hand.

It is neat to build one of their boats and, I find, to use it with the same
reverence they did--reverence for nature and for their own lives in that
environment. But I do not know if I must freeze their past way of life in
time, making no changes, in order to show that I respect and learn from them.

Mind you, I am not trying to start an argument here, but merely stating that
even a wood strip and glued plank baidarka would still be a baidarka,
although, admittedly, different from the original.

Have a merry one James, and thanks for all the thought provoking and
informative listing you post here. I look forward to each one.

SeaCaller

Phil Sharp

----- Original Message -----

From: James Mitchell

Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2000 1:00 PM

To: baidarka@lists.intelenet.net

Subject: Re: baidarka stability

Wait a minute. Got to get this picture. Paddling a redcedar hull designed

hundreds of years ago by natives on windswept islands, in a GoreTex dry suit

with a VHF and GPS on the deck, while sitting on a chunk of uranium???

Whoa, Nellie.

Is this a candidate for the Darwin award?

----- Original Message -----

From: "Andrew Lukban" <lukbaa15@hscbklyn.edu>

To: <baidarka@lists.intelenet.net>

Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2000 8:48 AM

Subject: Re: baidarka stability

> What would really be trick is to use an old "lead apron" that is used for

fluoroscopy. A

> lot of hospitals just chuck them out when they get torn or get pinholes in

them. Their

> plus side is that they are "rubberized lead sheets" so you can actually

use them as butt

> or spine pads. They're really quite managable.

>

> Now, if you really want pinpoint control in modifying center of gravity,

I've got this

> chunk of depleted Uranium that fits in the palm of my hand but feels about

twice heavier

> than similarly sized lead!

>

>

>

> Craig Keller wrote:

> >

> > A gallon of water weighs aproximately 8 pounds. For 50 pounds, that

means

> > 6.25 gallons. I bought 50 lbs of lead shot today (looks like about two

> > quarts worth, water is much cheaper BTW); the same equation means that I

> > need float bags with at least 6.25 gallons of volume to float the lead

if

> > the boat should happen to fill with water. The one advantage of lead is

> > that the weight can be placed very low in the boat enhancing the

stability

> > gained per pound of ballast. Harvey has mentioned the disadvantages.

> >

> > -Craig

> >

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