Subject: Re: baidarka stability
From: James Mitchell (mariner@seanet.com)
Date: Wed Dec 20 2000 - 18:55:28 EST
Thanks, Phil! Merry X to you too!!!
I agree with you about the technology. Am kinda like the typical Amerikan
gun nut -- mutter mutter when you pry my cold fingers of my Porter Cable
router. But I also get quite a kick out of myself, paddling this
centuries-old boat with a centuries-old paddle, clocking my speed from a
satellite??? teehee.
Have you read the book "King Island Tales"? Ummm, just a minute... ISBN
1-55500-19-3, pub by Univ of Alaska, Alaska Native Language Center. Amazon
should have it... treat yourself! Man, the stories they tell. Paddling
between icebergs, sometimes all that is left is a blood stain on the ice.
Attempted murder by cutting the rope, but the man falls off the cliff into a
wind so strong that he blows safely to ground. Gathering food, floating for
four days in the arctic, shamans who fly, all the time building their boats
on top of their houses clinging to the cliff. Their story touches my heart.
Enjoy!!!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Phil Sharp" <srelt@msn.com>
To: "BaidarkaSubmission" <baidarka@lists.intelenet.net>
Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2000 12:55 PM
Subject: Re: baidarka stability
> HMMMM. Perhaps James, but another way to look at it is that the natives
are
> intelligent enough that, given modern tools and materials, they could
improve
> baidarkas immeasurably. That goes for the apparel as well. Since they
are
> not dumb, they would use the best of what was at hand.
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> It is neat to build one of their boats and, I find, to use it with the
same
> reverence they did--reverence for nature and for their own lives in that
> environment. But I do not know if I must freeze their past way of life in
> time, making no changes, in order to show that I respect and learn from
them.
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> Mind you, I am not trying to start an argument here, but merely stating
that
> even a wood strip and glued plank baidarka would still be a baidarka,
> although, admittedly, different from the original.
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> Have a merry one James, and thanks for all the thought provoking and
> informative listing you post here. I look forward to each one.
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> SeaCaller
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> Phil Sharp
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> ----- Original Message -----
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> From: James Mitchell
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> Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2000 1:00 PM
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> To: baidarka@lists.intelenet.net
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> Subject: Re: baidarka stability
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> Wait a minute. Got to get this picture. Paddling a redcedar hull designed
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> hundreds of years ago by natives on windswept islands, in a GoreTex dry
suit
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> with a VHF and GPS on the deck, while sitting on a chunk of uranium???
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> Whoa, Nellie.
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> Is this a candidate for the Darwin award?
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> ----- Original Message -----
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> From: "Andrew Lukban" <lukbaa15@hscbklyn.edu>
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> To: <baidarka@lists.intelenet.net>
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> Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2000 8:48 AM
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> Subject: Re: baidarka stability
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> > What would really be trick is to use an old "lead apron" that is used
for
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> fluoroscopy. A
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> > lot of hospitals just chuck them out when they get torn or get pinholes
in
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> them. Their
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> > plus side is that they are "rubberized lead sheets" so you can actually
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> use them as butt
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> > or spine pads. They're really quite managable.
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> > Now, if you really want pinpoint control in modifying center of gravity,
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> I've got this
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> > chunk of depleted Uranium that fits in the palm of my hand but feels
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> twice heavier
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> > than similarly sized lead!
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> > > A gallon of water weighs aproximately 8 pounds. For 50 pounds, that
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> > > 6.25 gallons. I bought 50 lbs of lead shot today (looks like about
two
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> > > quarts worth, water is much cheaper BTW); the same equation means that
I
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> > > need float bags with at least 6.25 gallons of volume to float the lead
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> > > the boat should happen to fill with water. The one advantage of lead
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> > > that the weight can be placed very low in the boat enhancing the
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> > > gained per pound of ballast. Harvey has mentioned the disadvantages.
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> > > -Craig
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