Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 08:33:48 -0400 (EDT)
From: Kirk Olsen <kolsen@imagelan.com>
To: baidarka <baidarka@lists.intelenet.net>
Subject: [baidarka] Gunwale height
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From: "geoff hultin" <geoff_hultin@bctel.ca>
Subject: RE: [baidarka] Gunwale height
I'm building a greenlander here in Vancouver at the Brewery Creek Small Boat
Shop. We're using ballistic nylon for the skin, which is polyeurethaned to
provide waterproofing.
I haven't floated the boat yet, but I understand the skins are good for at
least 5-7 years, and are incredibly tough.
geoff
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-baidarka@lists.intelenet.net
> [mailto:owner-baidarka@lists.intelenet.net]On Behalf Of Wolfgang Brinck
> Sent: Friday, July 17, 1998 8:33 AM
> To: baidarka@lists.intelenet.net
> Subject: Re: [baidarka] Gunwale height
>
>
> A few years back, I inquired about the address of the author who wrote a
> book on building plywood skiffs. The editor I talked to said that the
> guy wasn't building boats any more because he'd become sensitized to the
> epoxy. So toxicity is definitely an issue.
>
> I use canvas mostly because it's cheap, but whenever I replace a skin
> that has rotted, I think longingly of more durable synthetics.
> Apparently people on this list have dealt with the nasty chemicals and
> not poisoned themselves, at least not fatally, but as you point out, the
> effects are cumulative.
>
> Back when I was in school, taking chemistry courses, somebody told me
> that the life expectancy of organic chemists - people who work with a
> lot of solvents - is 5 years less than that of other chemists.
>
> It's kind of like being a bomber pilot. You can fly a number of missions
> and come back alive, but in the long run, the odds are against you.
>
> Wolfgang
>
> David Baranoski wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, 16 Jul 1998, Chris Kohut wrote:
> >
> > > At the risk of inspiring incendiary missives, (INCOMMING!!!!)
> might I ask, if
> > > there are skinning materials such as nylon out there,(which I
> found to be
> > > fairly easy to work with), what are the properties and
> advantages of choosing
> > > #10 canvas? Or are there better skinning materials than the
> two mentioned?
> > > Or is this part of the great Vanilla/Chocolate debate?
> > > Chris
> > >
> >
> > Just a matter of choice. Personally, I'm going with the canvas (and a
> > lashed baidarka in the big picture) for the "natural" effect...no harsh
> > toxins involved. Having been a tool & die maker for a couple of decades,
> > I've been exposed to PCB's, dioxins and furons from the burning
> of my heat
> > treating oil, and don't even ask about the effects of 1,1,1
> trichlorathane
> > vapours from the older tapping compounds. In this project, I
> don't have to
> > worry about epoxies, glues, xylene, etc. Mind you, I'm not
> looking forward
> > to stretching the canvas, but I'm looking at it as an
> acceptable trade-off
> > to feeling like an old carp in Hamilton Harbour :)
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > David Baranoski
> > Thorold, Ontario
> > Canada
> >
>